Danny Brown - Latest Comments in Internet Censorship, Google Style

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

40deuce — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:54:02 -0000

That's kinda weird.
I'm pretty sure I remember Google being somewhat against online censorship when they were first moving into China, but eventually gave in. Though, it still seems weird that they would be censoring stuff on their blog.
Maybe they are getting too big for us little people, but I hope not.

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Danny — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:42:35 -0000

It's a good question, Tim. If you look at Apple and Microsoft, for example, they often get criticized for their "evil" approach (Apple for third-party iPhone developers and DRM, Microsoft for trying to take over the world and Windows). Although, in Microsoft's defence, the Gates Foundation rights about every single wrong of theirs you could mention.

It's sad to think that as size grows, relevance could diminish. We'll see...

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Piervi — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:37:42 -0000

I believe that Google is already too big to care about 'little ones' and I also think that the big G is already into censorship practices. Look what is doing in China. Are those reports of Google censorships ruled by the Chinese government all lies?

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Tim Jahn — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:27:41 -0000

I love Google and think it's doing/has done many great things all around. But as I asked back in August, and as you're asking now, are they defying their own mantra and getting evil?

I'm a huge fan of the small guy. Is there a point when you become one of the "big guys" that things like this are just inevitable? Or is it possible to be a big ass gorilla that isn't evil?

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Danny — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:10:24 -0000

That's a good point, Neil - if you do try to bury something it has a habit of becoming bigger than the original point made. I guess we'll see.

Thanks for stopping by, nice to have you here.

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Danny — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:08:32 -0000

I could see that happening if there were a ton of links going inward, but that wasn't the case with the original one. Add in that the other link I mentioned (the one that disappeared then reappeared) was just above mine and it's clear my link was removed.

I could also agree with the spam filter as well, if it wasn't for the fact that the link was talking about Gmail and its 5-year anniversary.

Seems like Google is just a tad touchy these days... ;-)

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Neil Matthews — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:03:37 -0000

Don't p!ss off the little guys, their voice can become a roar, I came to this post from a retweet on Twitter, someone saying something sensible and asking questions seems to bubble to the top in the new converstation age. Big business cannot bury the desenting voices.

Google should know this.

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Danny — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:56:16 -0000

Is it an exaggeration if it's only positive comments being allowed, though? Doesn't this give a skewed view of Google, which in effect is censorship of some form?

It's not too dissimilar to the approach the Chinese government takes with its web approach, in that it frequently takes down any website that criticizes its human rights issues, or the way that the media is sanctioned. If you just allow one point of view to be shown, it's censorship.

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Houssein — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:21:01 -0000

I don't think GG is censoring these links. There is a limit on how much links to show on a Google blog post: it only shows the latest 50 links.

So your link was probably digged down because more than 50 links were posted after yours...

Then again, you may be right, the 50th link was published on April 3rd, your post was on April 7th. hmmm...

Another guess: Google does automatic analysis to see if the post linking back to google blog is related to the article. Kind of anti-spam technique, maybe!

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

A Bisht — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:39:01 -0000

Google definitely uses its weight. I want to take the debate a little further, since the web is an open medium, why not allow opinion of any kind to exist and be approached?

As any bid to organize the web, by means of what is relevant and what is not, is like weeding a rain forest. And that definitely will not be a good thing for the existence of the web.

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Henie — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:56:41 -0000

Google isn't the "ooooohgle" anymore! :~)

I can't even begin because I already am "one of the little guys upset" who one day may be "a big guy around campus" who could potentially rally focus and "make a big problem" but they really don't care!

Simply put, I was delighted when I read about "one little guy" who took them to court and won on the same issue that I encountered! To me this was sweet justice indeed! :~)

I would have posted the link but censorship would have likely disabled it!:~)

Thanks, Danny! It's always so nice to wake and "think behind great causes!"

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Mariusz — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:23:16 -0000

GMail's Beta politics is a bit more complicated than that, I think. I think they use it as a major minefield and even though it's basically a final, working product, they keep it in beta so they can't be blamed if they feck something up. ;)

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Dave Rattigan — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:20:23 -0000

I'd be concerned if they were removing stuff from search results and the like, but I don't think it's all that unexpected or unreasonable that they'd remove negative publicity from their own blog. "Censorship" is an exaggeration.

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Richard McLaughlin — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:14:39 -0000

I hope google does buy twitter because we will be sure that twitter stays open. Gmail may have the tag 'beta' on in, but it runs better than yahoo or msn.
if Gwitter took off, we would not longer see that "Something is technically wrong here" Google has the best techies about.
Gwitter is over capacity? Heck, I doubt that Gwitter would even have a window created that says it - we'd never see it (OK, once a year on my birthday - today - Gtwitter would be flooded as both of my friends send me a Gweet).

Long live Gwitter

Re: Internet Censorship, Google Style

Stuart Foster — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:33:07 -0000

Interesting Danny, I'm hoping that Google doesn't acquire Twitter mainly because of the mess you touched on earlier (feedburner). I'm kind of nervous though: your analogy of an indie band hitting it big and selling out is dead on. I'm really really hoping this isn't the case with Google...and feedburner and censorship are no longer issues.