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danny brown - community / connection / conversation: Melrose Jewelers, Rolex and Owen Wilson - The Sequel

  • Heather Nolte · 9 months ago
    Great points Danny! Definitely a case where greed clouded common sense. I think it will be difficult to argue their point when it is so easily discounted. The moral of the story is to be responsible in the FIRST place.
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    I think the main problem Melrose may have is that it's their own words that place them in this position. I'm just sharing the info with a little of my personal opinion.
  • Sonny Gill · 9 months ago
    This apparent lawyer of Melrose Jewelers obviously missed the boat and doesn't realize what your original points were about that ridiculous press release.

    You made it even more clear with this reply and responded with smarts and class.
  • Jon Aston · 9 months ago
    I always find it odd when people or companies can't just come out and apologize for showing poor judgement. They lose even more respect in the public's eye.
  • Mindspazzer · 9 months ago
    Good for you! Stand your ground. I warn my company bosses bloggers are never people you want to get in a pissing contest with, because ultimately the big corporate bully loses.

    You are right, Melrose Jewelers is wrong to exploit the serious issue of suicide to sell watches.

    Shame on you Melrose Jewelers! ( and for the record that is my OPINION, feel free to counter with legal action).
  • MSchechter · 9 months ago
    I think they would be hard pressed to argue that your article lost them more business and credibility than their initial acto of posting the article in the first place. I can only imagine the chuckle that many of the major news sites that covered this story got upon receiving that letter! If this guy even had the guts to send it their way! Way to not only stand your ground, but to also push right back!
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    What was disappointing (which I mentioned in my original post) was that it was approved by at least one major newswire. Which makes me question their editorial process and whether I'd want to recommend any of my clients to use that service.
  • Rachel Kay · 9 months ago
    I feel bad for Melrose Jewelers because they seem to have a knack for employing consultants who steer them in very poor directions. First it was the PR firm or professional who suggested they capitalize on personal tragedy to try to sell a few watches which resulted in ugly publicity for the company. This time they turn to a law firm who suggests they resurrect a blemish that had almost faded away, bringing it to the surface once again in all it's glory. Rather than apologize and hibernate for awhile as it blows over, more people will now be exposed to the original debacle of the very poorly considered press release.

    This isn't a legal case. It's called bad publicity. It's called journalism. My advice to Melrose - hire Danny Brown to help you with your messaging and it won't go wrong next time.
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    It reminds me of the whole BackUp Shotgun Rack fiasco that used the murders of Jennifer Hudson's family to try and sell shotgun racks for the home. There are just some places you shouldn't go. Using personal hardship to profit (or at least seem to) just comes across bad.

    And thanks for the referral - though I think my bridges are a little burned there... ;-)
  • Eden Spodek · 9 months ago
    It amazes me how much time good PR practitioners have to spend defending their work because of how many others in the business have poor judgment.
  • Ari Herzog · 9 months ago
    Clicking to Melrose Jewelers blog, I am in disbelief after reading a post entitled, "Wearing His Rolex, Yo-Yo Ma Performs At the Inauguration of President Barack Obama." Please don't click that link; you won't learn anything that the headline doesn't tell you.

    Oh, shit. Maybe I'll get served now too.

    Keep your cool, Danny. You did nothing wrong. At its basic level, a blog is a "web log" or a personal journal. No different than the company's blog.

    If you are forced to remove your content, then MJ should be forced to remove that post about Yo-Yo Ma, because unless that photo of the cellist was taken by blogger John Lavitt, there is no Creative Commons licensing attribution or link to the source.
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    If you look through some of the posts on that blog, some of the correlations are pretty... insightful.

    Good point about the Creative Commons.
  • Ari Herzog · 9 months ago
    I missed something on Melrose Jewelers' blog. Did you see the small print at the bottom of every post?

    Extracting two sentences...

    All blog postings on the MJ Rolex Watch Blog are submitted by independent Rolex enthusiasts and not by Melrose Jewelers.... The MJ Rolex Watch Blog is provided for entertainment purposes only & Melrose Jewelers makes no representations as to the validity....

    Are they for real? Their blog is not *their* blog and they admit it's entertainment?!? I highly doubt Geneva-based Rolex SA would construe their products as "entertainment fodder."

    In that light, Danny, the legal letter is hilarious.
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    Which then begs the question: Are they happy to be portrayed in the manner that the blog suggests? Which is that most of the world's ills and ailments can be resolved by a good Rolex?
  • Ari Herzog · 9 months ago
    Maybe Twitter can connect you to someone (or someone who knows someone) at Rolex SA or their PR/legal teams. My guess is MJ's blog would not be perceived lightly.
  • Katbron · 9 months ago
    WOW Danny! I was unaware that a cease and desist could be issued for offering your opinion - hmmm, learn something everyday.
    MJ, Tacky, tacky, tacky - and am convinced very few watches would be sold based on the fact that they might someday save another life.
  • Cathy Browne · 9 months ago
    Way to go Danny. This is a truly ridiculous situation. Seems that not only some unscrupulous PR people, but at least one lawyer, have let greed get in the way of common sense...

    And not a word of apology about, nor a ringing defense of, that awful press release.

    Shocking that Melrose does not seem to realize how very silly(and desperate) they look.

    Hang in there.
  • Jennifer Struwe · 9 months ago
    A quick search on LinkedIn showed several LI users in communications or PR at Rolex SA.
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    Thanks Jennifer, I never even thought of that. Mind must be slipping. :)
  • Frank Reed · 9 months ago
    Wow, Danny, you are such a rebel having those awful opinion things on your blog! You are truly trouble to all! Beware of Danny Brown world.......he tends to think and take positions on matters! Pure evil!

    This is just ridiculous. I know it's easy for me to say "Stand your ground" since I am not the one getting the cease and desist letter but what are they going to do?

    Here's the thing, PR is about creating buzz. These guys have done that. Just because they have no sense of taste is their problem not ours.
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    One thing that I did question about the original "release" was whether it had been written by someone in PR. It was taken word-for-word from the original blog post (now removed) at Melrose Jewelers' blog. Which makes me think it was definitely ill-conceived PR but not necessarily carried out or approved by a PR person. I guess we might find out soon.
  • Ari Herzog · 9 months ago
    You know as well as I do (or I think you do) that when something is removed from a blog, it's never really removed. Run a google search and you can probably find the cache. Else, goto the internet archive.
  • Frank Reed · 9 months ago
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.947...

    Apparently Rolexes can save other things as well!
  • neilends · 9 months ago
    As a lawyer myself (but this is not legal advice and you aren't my client; sorry, the rules make me say that) I'm always dismayed to see other lawyers attempting to quell free speech. I'm glad you stood up for your 1st amendment rights as a blogger.
  • Josephine · 9 months ago
    Danny:

    MJ and its attorney are operating from what I would call an old paradigm, one in which big corporations with lawyers historically have had all or most of the power. No more, but some are still operating as if they did--some won't give it up gracefully, and it appears to be somewhat generational in nature.

    It is the democratizing and leveling power of the Internet that they don't get yet--but they will, sooner or later--in this case, definitely later. You did nothing illegal, libelous, slanderous or inappropriate, it seems to me (but I would talk to my lawyer). Instead of MJ sending you a cease and desist letter, they should pull any related advertising, quickly and quietly, do standard PR damage control, e.g., a press conference, offer an apology, and perhaps go the extra mile by contributing some money to an organization that assists in suicide prevention. That would be far more appropriate at this juncture, it seems to me, than this silly pecking at you.

    The MJ executives need to understand that transparancy and the use of social media are much, much more than offering an "entertainment disclaimer" for blog posts and sending threatening letters to people who write blogs that don't share their views. It makes them look even more ridiculous. They are attempting to fit a legal solution to a problem that is not a legal problem. They won't get anywhere with that approach, although maybe 20 years ago, they might have. They need to learn to do business differently in today's world. That's what Pfizer is doing because of the Motrin moms--MJ needs to learn from the experience of other big corporations.

    Having been a teacher, I am giving the MJ CEO and lawyers a homework assignment--go read Social Media Marketing One Hour a Day by Dave Evans. Social media is ignored by corporations at their own peril. They just don't get it yet--but they will--later.

    Oh, and MJ, if you are reading this, I'm providing this for entertainment purposes only.
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    This is the funny thing that most people have said. My original post had died down (traffic-wise) and no-one was really speaking about it anymore. At least, not here - there are plenty of other places around the Net where this story gained a lot of traction.

    Yet by sending the letter that they did, it's Melrose themselves that have re-opened everything. Additionally, as Michael Schechter said earlier in the comments, maybe a lot of the negative reactions came from the press release itself.

    The blogs and sites that reported on that were only repeating statements made by that release, then offering an opinion. If the opinion was pretty much universally negative, is that really the fault of the bloggers or the issuing company?
  • Star · 9 months ago
    which makes me wonder if Melrose is operating under the "negative publicity is better than no publicity" attitude.

    Perhaps, "Mr. Cole" and client are banking on your posts?

    I for one, considered buying a second-hand watch from Melrose after reading about Owen Wilson's near suicide attempt.

    Can anyone tell me how to insert an eye-rolly emoticon on this thing?
  • Jason Tryfon · 9 months ago
    I think this reeks of censorship of freedom of speech and a thin skin on the company in in question.

    Maybe you should add a disclaimer to your blog stating it's for entertainment purposes and that will make everything ok too.
  • PurplePeopleEater · 9 months ago
    Wow...

    Just wow. What a bunch of effing nonsense.

    Clearly they didn't really read your original blog post though, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to censor unfavourable opinions about their massive screw-up. I don't care if "joe six-pack" wrote the blog, the company should be monitoring the type of content that's posted on a site that is linked to them. They're logo is at the top of the page!

    Hopefully they get their things together and realize how ridiculous this is, and it goes no further than this. I wonder if anyone else got a letter like this, or if they just think that they can pick on the "little guy"?
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    You make a good point of brand monitoring. As you say, when you have ownership of a blog or website, what's then posted on there does fall under your "watch".

    The blog is on a sub-domain of the main Melrose Jewelers website. Therefore, they should be actively monitoring what's being said in their name. If they leave content that's posted by others, they're then saying that they're happy for it to be there.

    In which case, if something is seen to be in poor taste, doesn't that then reflect on the host?
  • Mike Ashworth · 9 months ago
    Hiya, i also wrote about this nonsense masquerading as a press release

    http://michaelashworth.wordpress.com/2009/01/07...

    Don't know if i'll be getting one of these letters too, drop me a line, you have my full support on making the wider world aware of the actions of Melrose and by association Rolex.

    The Melrose / Rolex campaign ~I can imagine the headline on the online press release :-)

    Mike
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    I assume that if Melrose Jewelers are monitoring their brand, then they will also have details of all the other blog posts, forum discussions, Twitter conversations and more. So maybe you'll join the club :)
  • Danielle Lanyard · 9 months ago
    Danny,

    I think you are 100% on point that this is more than a PR issue. Our human institution of ownership is coming crashing down. The modern world built upon the 'bottom' need for the 'top'' product has come upon a brick wall. This 'bottom', the customer base, now has a real-time tool to meet their own needs through each other. The big boys with the keys to the castle are shaking in their boots and issuing out cease and desist letters like hotcakes.

    You are setting such a beautiful precedent by calmly and transparently exposing it. We must do our part to show that our collective supportive response is more powerful than their century-old model of feeding us the shit we don't need and owning the media channels to remind us of all we lack without it.

    Yet, here we are. And it doesn't look we're going anywhere.
    Power to you Danny!
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    The thing is, situations like this can be so easily avoided. One of the best recent examples was the Motrin Moms fiasco that first started on Twitter.

    Although it took a couple of days for Motrin to react, the job they did was excellent. They invited moms to their offices to discuss how best to deal with the flak that occurred; they removed the offending ad and issued a full apology; and they listened to what was being said and worked with the relevant people towards a common goal.

    People make mistakes or errors in judgment every day. So do businesses. It's a natural process. It's how these errors are dealt with that make the real news.
  • Karthik S · 9 months ago
    I feel Melrose Jewelers have resorted to this C&D action ONLY to gain more PR - no PR is bad PR, after all, in their opinion, I suppose. I believe they saw a blog post with reasonably good reach and just went after it in the hope that it'd induce more comments. Guess what...it did! In your case, you did what is right - expose them. They unfortunately gain a lot more in terms of publicity. Lets see how all this publicity translates into business for them - I hope it doesn't and common sense says it wouldn't too...but who knows how they'd spin this further!
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    While I've never been a believer in the "all publicity is good publicity" mantra, I know that many others do work by it. As you say, Karthik, perhaps this is the view on this occasion? I guess time will tell.
  • mcolacurcio · 9 months ago
    Danny,
    Good for you. In some instances, I think the 'no publicity is bad publicity' works. I think that statement is accurate when the publicity is drummed up as a result of something neutral (e.g. negative comments on a controversial blog post incite heated discussion which drive more comments). In this case, the publicity is 100% negative which may increase their awareness but won't benefit their brand. To quote @brandingexpert "everyone knows about cancer, but how many people actually want it?"

    Thanks for posting.
  • Adam Singer · 9 months ago
    I'm still waiting for the day I get a cease and desist letter...hellooooo web traffic :)
  • marianne oconnor · 9 months ago
    Given the 1.2M+ lawyers we currently have running around the U.S. and the legions of competent PR folks who are standing at the ready, I'd strongly suggest Melrose "switch out" its current team — and the sooner the better. It's a crime to pay for such ham-handed PR/legal advice!
  • Mike Ashworth · 9 months ago
    having re-read the post above do you think that Rolex is none too ghappy with the actiosn of Melorse, that's the way it reads to me?

    the MSNBC news story has now been taken down
  • Mike Ashworth · 9 months ago
    p.s. looks like they had a go with a lance armstrong "press release" about a month before the owen wilson one

    http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idU...
  • Cathy · 9 months ago
    I actually bought a watch from Melrose Jewelers this Christmas. I don't understand why they would issue a release about that. They seemed like a legitimate company and I love my watch. I saved a lot of money going with them. It looks like they took down the blog and issued an apology. I don't think it's right in the first place but why all the hatred towards them?

    Here's the watch I bought:
    http://www.melrosejewelers.com/info/ladies_super_president_404.htm
  • Danny · 9 months ago
    I think it's less hatred and more disgust and disbelief at the poor PR decision in the first place, Cathy.

    Issuing cease and desist letters haven't helped in that department either, it would appear.