Danny Brown - Latest Comments in Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Name — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:03:00 -0000

Barbara, I think it would be best if you just stopped talking. You are looking worse every minute. Give it up, okay? And please let people do their jobs.

Hey Danny, good work. I wish 12for12k and you all success. You are *actually* doing something to change the world, while most people only talk about it.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Name — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:02:00 -0000

Barbara, I think it would be best if you just stopped talking. You are looking worse every minute. Give it up, okay? And please let people do their jobs.

Hey Danny, good work. I wish 12for12k and you all success. You are *actually* doing something to change the world, while most people only talk about it.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Name — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:03:22 -0000

Barbara, I think it would be best if you just stopped talking. You are looking worse every minute. Give it up, okay? And please let people do their jobs.

Hey Danny, good work. I wish 12for12k and you all success. You are *actually* doing something to change the world, while most people only talk about it.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Name — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:02:56 -0000

Barbara, I think it would be best if you just stopped talking. You are looking worse every minute. Give it up, okay? And please let people do their jobs.

Hey Danny, good work. I wish 12for12k and you all success. You are *actually* doing something to change the world, while most people only talk about it.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

bethharte — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:34:00 -0000

Danny, I am totally late here...but I think it ended up being a good thing because it seems that Barbara's post is no longer available. Reading it would have just made me irate...

As a 12for12K supporter since the beginning, I can't believe ANYONE would have a negative thing to say about what you've been doing for all of these organizations.

Social media, personal branding, etc. tends to take on a ME, ME, ME focus and I am very happy to support you Danny as you turn the spotlight on those (both the charities and those they serve) in this world who very much deserve the help and focus that we can provide as a global community.

Being the gentlemen that you are, I am not shocked at how well you handled this situation. My respect for you is 100-fold now. ;-)

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

bethharte — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:34:56 -0000

Danny, I am totally late here...but I think it ended up being a good thing because it seems that Barbara's post is no longer available. Reading it would have just made me irate...

As a 12for12K supporter since the beginning, I can't believe ANYONE would have a negative thing to say about what you've been doing for all of these organizations.

Being the gentlemen that you are, I am not shocked at how well you handled this situation. My respect for you is 100-fold now. ;-)

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Andreas Duess — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:48:00 -0000

Danny, well done for raising what you've raised so far. We all do pro bono work for two reasons, a: to give back and b: to develop our skills, make contacts etc. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. If our businesses don't make money, we can't give back, simple.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Danny Brown — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:42:00 -0000

I actually agree with you on that point Barbara, and that has never been in question. The reason 12for12k offers services free is to save money that these organizations can use elsewhere. I just feel that sometimes too many put a large focus on the monetary side, when that's just part of the solution (you'll know from your NP work that many NP's agree). Money eventually disappears - mindsets don't, and that's where I feel the key focus needs to be.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Barbara Talisman — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:51:00 -0000

Danny,

I think we agree to disagree. Organizations cannot make their missions real, survive or serve their communities without money.

Best wishes in your work.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Andreas Duess — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:48:41 -0000

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Danny Brown — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:42:17 -0000

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Barbara Talisman — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:51:16 -0000

Danny,
I think we agree to disagree. Organizations cannot make their missions real, survive or serve their communities without money.
Best wishes in your work.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Danny Brown — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:51:33 -0000

I saw your response on Barbara&#39s blog when it eventually made it past the moderation, and to see your continued support despite your own personal hardships just humbles me immensely, Cheryl, and reinforces my belief in the overall goodness of humanity. Thank you for being you.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Danny Brown — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:15:00 -0000

Sorry, Barbara, I have to disagree with you. And yes, I'm not the non-profit expert, but I can't help but feel there's a little too much fixation on money here. I appreciate that it costs money for organizations to run - wouldn't it be better then for experts in the field to offer some of their services for free, or at least a very discounted consultancy fee? That would help keep costs down, no?

12for12k folks give what they can - and often more than they can - because they passionately believe in offering help to those who need it most. Everything for the charity in a particular month is 100% profit - is there a better return than that?

Millions of people? No. We're growing, but we're a long way away from that number. And I'm no social media guru - just someone that (possibly) knows more than some, and less than others.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Danny Brown — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:02:00 -0000

And it works both ways, fella. I've been so fortunate to meet some of the most amazing people on the planet because of our joint belief in making the world a better place. If 12for12k ended tomorrow (which it won't!), I would feel honoured to be part of such an inspiring group of people - thanks for being you.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Danny Brown — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:15:43 -0000

Millions of people? No. We're growing, but we're a long way away from that number. And I'm no social media guru - just someone that (possibly) knows more than some, and less than others.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Danny Brown — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:02:28 -0000

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

Danny Brown — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:51:33 -0000

I saw your response on Barbara's blog when it eventually made it past the moderation, and to see your continued support despite your own personal hardships just humbles me immensely, Cheryl, and reinforces my belief in the overall goodness of humanity. Thank you for being you.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

John Haydon — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:50:00 -0000

Bill - you are a prime example of a 12for12k foot soldier! Any criticism of your efforts is like a small fly buzzing around your heads. We should remain proud and undeterred. Shoe fly! ;-)

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

ElliStGeorgeGodfrey — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:45:27 -0000

Collaboration is such a positive way to operate! Your ability to articulate a clear vision enables all of us to contribute in our way.

By the way, thanks for noticing. Acknowledgement is a wonderful gift!

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

davefleet — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:25:00 -0000

Classy response Danny.

I agree with one of your follow-up comments on Barbara's blog - her second post would have been a much better way to lead the conversation. The first sparked a debate not over the best way to conduct a fundraising campaign but over your integrity which, knowing you as I do, was never in question for me. The second post, meanwhile, is much more constructive.

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

CherylFehlberg — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:46:00 -0000

BTalisman, I couldn't agree with AprilTara more. Your comments are so dreadfully arrogant. I don't see where 12for12kers have asked or dared you to help. By all means, feel free to investigate your beliefs and join us and join in our positive community, but please do the work first so that you come to us as an equal. As 12for12kers you'll find that none of us believe we're better than others, we just do our best. If you get to where we are as a community, it would be great to see the change. But please - don't come to us with your arrogance. Your statements here do, as AprilTara, so eloquently put it - "dig you in deeper".

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

John Haydon — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:50:57 -0000

Bill - you are a prime example of a 12for12k foot soldier! Any criticism of your efforts is like a small fly buzzing around your heads. We should remain proud and undeterred. Shoe fly! ;-)

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

ElliStGeorgeGodfrey — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:45:27 -0000

Collaboration is such a positive way to operate! Your ability to articulate a clear vision enables all of us to contribute in our way.

By the way, thanks for noticing. Acknowledgement is a wonderful gift!

Re: Response to Barbara Talisman’s Misinformed 12for12k Post

CherylFehlberg — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:57:00 -0000

Most of what Ms B Talisman upsets me - but the main kicker is "I believe for the 1,000s if not millions of followers of 12for12K, it should have been more successful. Even in $10 increments….I believe if we are going to launch social media fundraising then let’s launch it and go big."

I say to you Ms B Talisman that your comment is so arrogant.

My job was made redundant earlier this year and I have had almost zero income - I don't have a partner and have 2 children to feed and clothe, yet I have contributed my $10 most months. Since the beg of the year I've had about $100 come into the house, but it has given me joy to give what I can to these causes and to share this great group, especially with the Facebook community, but also twitter. Spreading the word there is my bit of reaching out through social media. It's allowed the word to be spread greater throughout Australia especially and I'm proud of the interaction that has come about through that. Again, I say Danny, you've engendered that feeling as so many other 12for12kers have adopted those feelings and spread it wide. All kudos to you!

As you've now seen Ms B Talisman, many of us have had no income at all - how much should I contribute??? How can you criticise people doing good? How much are you going to give? I'm excitedly awaiting your contribution.